Executive Presence, Enterprise Thinking, and the Path to the CLO Seat

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What does it actually take to become a CLO and is the path what most people think it is? 

Amy DuVernet, VP of Learning Products at Training Industry, joins Sam Herring on Being Intrepid to answer that question with research, not guesswork. TI has data on 250,000 L&D professionals. Amy has spent years studying their career trajectories, aspirations, and the competency gaps that determine who reaches the executive level. 

In this conversation, Amy shares: 

  • The three competencies that define CLO readiness and why they require a mindset shift, not just skill-building 
  • Why the path to CLO isn’t linear and what strategic career moves actually look like 
  • How the Training Industry Senior Leaders Program uses Intrepid to combine AI-enabled practice, peer learning, self-paced development, and expert-led sessions to build executive readiness over time 
  • The highest-leverage skill most L&D professionals overlook 
  • A CFO pitch framework that reframes the ROI conversation 

Guest: Amy DuVernet, VP of Learning Products, Training Industry

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Amy DuVernet

Vice President, Learning Products
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